Comments on: Groves Chapel update: notes and queries

By: Nick Beilby

Nick Beilby — Wed, 23 Aug 2017 20:04:12 +0000

I was a choirboy at the church of St Thomas with St Maurice in the mid 1960s and on one occasion we joined with the choir of Groves Chapel to sing Steiner’s Crucifixion. The performance was one evening in Groves Chapel and the combined choir sang from the upstairs balcony. It was fun joining with the Methodists as they didn’t seem as starchy as the C of E were.

By: Sue

Sue — Wed, 14 Jun 2017 11:46:50 +0000

I attended Groves Chapel in the 1960s when I lived in Union Terrace (the opposite end to where the Chapel is) Went to Sunday School, Girl Guides, Youth Club etc. I hope the wonderful plasterwork ceiling in the main chapel is retained.

By: Nicholas

Nicholas — Tue, 13 Jun 2017 20:54:12 +0000

To the best of my understanding, you’re not allowed to use someone else’s coat of arms in a way that implies some association or endorsement without their permission. In practice, you’ll usually get away with it in England, Wales and Northern Ireland, but probably not in Scotland. In England, Wales and Northern Ireland, heraldry is controlled by the College of Arms, and heraldic law enforced by something called the High Court of Chivalry, while in Scotland, it’s under the jurisdiction of the Court of the Lord Lyon. The High Court of Chivalry has convened once in the last three hundred years, to try a case brought in the 1950s by Manchester City Council against a somewhat risque local theatre who had been using their arms without permission. (Before the case got going, there was a detailed legal discussion to ascertain whether the Court still actually existed.) The Lord Lyon, however, has judicial authority to enforce his decisions, and regularly does so. (Amongst the people to have found themselves in Lyon Court are Donald Trump and Mohamed Fayed, both for using someone else’s arms.)